| Only in France : examples
of curious (for Americans) French behavior!
|| The French and change
Sometimes the French act in such
unexpected and unpredictable ways that foreigners think they
are crazy! Their attitudes toward pleasure, work, their pets,
other countries, sex, and money are indeed very different.
Are they crazy ? No ... they're French! Here are a few
The French are said to refuse
change. At the same time, they always demand reforms and hope
for (or fear) a major revolution.The reason for this illogical attitude toward
change is that each change may hurt one of the French sacred cows and it can be summarized in a few often-heard statements :
« If I have to change, it
means that I lost....» : the French do not believe
in the possibility of a win-win situation. Therefore, if I change,
it means that someone forced me to do it and is winning over
me : therefore I am reluctant to change !
or just crazy ?
- They put their personal enjoyment above their professional duty (at least you can say they
are not greedy....) : A Saturday afternoon at 5 :30 ; I called
a person who advertised as an Art Repair and Restorer at the
number indicated in the ad ; her answer " Sir, I am now
having tea with a girlfriend and you are bothering me ". More about French work
ethics. Here is antother example : Berthillon (on the Ile-Saint-Louis)
is by far the best ice-cream maker in Paris, with amazing flavours.
All year people queue in line in the street to buy his wonderful
ice-creams and sherbets, except in Summer : until recently, the shop closed
from July 13 to September 2. Why ? In Summer, there is too
much work and Mr.Berthillon and his family were on vacation, like
everybody ! This is why a large majority of people think that
it is normal that shops
are closed on Sunday. During the lockdown period in 2020 all shops (except groceries) were closed but the worst was that the cafés were closed too : many people advocated that a café is more important than a grocery shop. Read abour corornavirus and cafés.
"Work more to make more" was Sarkozy's motto
: in 2007 he announced that, among other changes,
he would make it easier to work on Sundays. Contrary to what
people might think, only 53% of the French support this idea.
Read more about it.
They love animals (more than work).... My wife asked one of our neighbors,
unemployed for several years, when she would resume looking for
a job. Answer : "Not yet : I have to take care of my dog...".
See about unemployment benefits.
just crazy ?
- They can share things that do not exist (at least you
can say that they are not too Cartesian.....) : only in France
can you see huge controversies about " how to share the
kitty " (cagnotte) when the deficit of the state is smaller than
anticipated. The few politicians who say :"let's reduce
the deficit : there is nothing to share" are considered
boring. For example, in March 2016, it appeared that, due to macroeconomic reasons (the price of petrol and the level of the Euros), the French deficit for 2015 (3.5%) would be a little lower than the initial budget (but still higher than the French commitment in the European treaty : 3%).
|The expected deficit was 70 billion Euros instead of 76. Everybody asked "What shall we do with the kitty ?" (kitty is "cagnotte" and "Bercy" is the name of the Ministry of Finance). More about strange behavior in politics.
They prefer ideas to reality and the classical
joke "The facts and the theory do not match, let's change
the facts" is actually seriously grounded if you deal with
the French ... It is probably for this reason that they love strict Freudian pychoanalysis.
How to turn down a 150-million-Euro gift? In 2000, French billionnaire François Pinault
(Le Printemps, Christie's, etc) decided that he would give his
private collection of modern art (the largest in Europe) to a
new museum (the size of Pompidou) to be built on the site of
the former Renault factory, in Boulogne-Billancourt. A major
symbol of the history of the working class in France, the place
is on an island on the river Seine and is expected to be one
of the most prestigious locations in Paris after the old factory
is destroyed and replaced by fancy buildings for well-off Parisians.
Pinault's offer in 2000 was followed by several years of bureaucratic
procedures, accompanied by a few legal lawsuits against the
project by various environmental associations. On May 9, 2005
Pinault gave up and said he would transfer his collection to
a palace he just bought in Venice. It is not the first time (Giacometti,
Newton, etc) that a private donator is not welcomed and
the benefactor (or his heirs) considers he is not treated with
the consideration and the gratitude he would get in the USA.
Read about charities in France.
An example of French naivety : when Paris was candidate for the 2012 Olympic Games (London won), a huge transport strike was decided by workers unions for the very day the International Olympic Committee was scheduled to visit Paris and examine its strengths and weaknesses regarding its infrastructures and its transport system. Clearly the day when most buses and trains were not operated and the city would be a giant traffic jam was not the best day to impress the IOC. The Mayor of Paris, Bertrand Delanoe (Socialist), asked the workers unions to cancel or postpone their strike. One accepted (CFDT, reformist) but the most important of them (CGT, Force Ouvriere, Sud) refused bluntly. The Mayor declared : "This is good for our candidacy : it will show them that we are a real democracy". Isn't that cute ? The worst is that he believed what he said.
« I changed, but don't tell
anybody ....» : in fact, the French society does change.
From rural to urban, from traditional to modern, from protectionist
to global, etc... But since I do not want to admit that changing
is good in itself, I change and expect nobody will notice it
« Small changes are not good
: they are a pretext not to make major changes... » : Peyrefitte gives
a clue : « revolutionary or immobilists because the French
never see themselves as in a situation where they can be actors
of the change ». Since they do not believe they can be
associated with any project of change, the only options are either
to change everything (revolution) or nothing (status quo). Read
more about the French
revolutions in history.
« Only unstable people or
societies change ...» : an ideal world is stable
and rooted in history. An anecdote : in 2004, the Invest-in-France
Agency wanted to show that France has very good scientists. It
showed a film starring two highly respected French Nobel Prizes,
both in their 80s. It does not mean that there are no young scientists
(there are even younger French Nobel prize winners) but those
two were the most well-known and unquestionable. Of course the
result was highly counterproductive and the audience was led
to believe that the days of French science were in the past !
« if it changes, it must change
everywhere...» : experiencing change is unthinkable
if not everywhere : this is why, in the name of equality,
regional powers cannot experience anything if it is not a general
« It's Houdini, not Thatcher," writes
The Economist, "France is spectacularly good at saying NON....
but behind the scene, more quietly and with no discernible romance,
France can and does say OUI. In Germany and Scandinavia, change
happens after considerable debate and lengthy analysis. In France
by contrast, it tends to be convulsive and born of conflict :
one violent leap backward followed by two surreptitious steps
Best examples of the attitude toward change
- The Left against the Left to avoid any change : In March 2016, the (Socialist) government was trying to pass a law which was a very limited attempt to simplify labors laws (the Labor Code Book has more than 3,000 pages) and limitate certain rules which do deter employers to hire more staff because they fear that it would be too difficult and too costlty to lay them off if needed. All the workers unions, a large part of the Socialist party, all the other parties of the Left wing agreed on only one thing : do NOT change the Labor Laws. According to all studies, including the last OECD report, Labor Laws are the most important cause of the French unemployment rate, the highest in Western countries. More about this project.
- Change is unpopular : Sarkozy had appointed Jacques Attali
(a Socialist advisor to former president Mitterand), to identify
the main obstacles to economic growth in the French society ;
he submitted his report Jan.23, 2008 with 316 propositions ;
as always lazy, prejudiced and incompetent, the French press
mentions only the most anecdotal ones (like suppressing the obligation
of a license for hairdressers) or the 3 of them President Sarkozy
did not agree with (like suppressing the "departement",
one of the SEVEN layers of local authorities). Nobody discussed if the propositions were good or bad but only who would be against
them. Then .... nothing happened!
2000, tens of thousands of high school students marched in
the streets to protest against a project of changing the baccalaureat which
was to replace this 3 or 4-day nation-wide exam (passed by more than 80%...)
by a single validation of the grades of the school year. Reason
: it would not be a national and anonymous exam and therefore equality would not be guarranteed. The project was dropped.
- Read a column about students
striking for two months to oppose a change in labor
- Read about demonstrating in the street
- More to come
or just crazy ?
They think it is more important
to protect the weakest than to encourage the strongest : this is
why there are so many social programs and benefits paid by companies
(see the anatomy of a paycheck)
and weighing on their profitability. This is why education is quasi-free
for everybody. Business people or taxpayers complain about it
but the whole French society, in fact, supports it. Contrary
to Americans, people do not think that it is (only) the responsibility of a person to protect himself / herself.
This is why the majority of the French do not think that market economy is a system
for the future.
They consider having a job a constitutional
right : after a (very brutal) shut-down of a factory by
Michelin in 1999 (Wolber, near Paris), the 450 laid-off workers
sued the company and asked the court to have Michelin re-open
the factory (demolished in 2001...) and re-hire them. Read about how the French see their job.
or just crazy ?
- The French
and accountability : The French do not take it the way Americans
do. For them, reporting to one's constituents or to one's boss
is a dangerous adventure which can only lead to criticism and
never to praise. Auditing and controlling bodies are feared (Cour
des Comptes, Conseil d'Etat, etc...) and, globally, the French
society does not feel comfortable when reporting (politicians
to voters, management to shareholders, etc) : it probably goes
back to the old days in school, when professors only correct
mistakes and never praise progress. That's probably why you get
so often the answer "It's not my fault"... If you have French people working for you or reporting to you, be ready to hear endlessly : "Ce n'est pas de ma faute" !
just crazy ?
- The French universalism : in a conference (Nov. 2007) about the future of
the French university, which is in a very difficult situation, one
of the orators (a professor!) said : " the French university
makes citizens and we all know that, whereas the American university
makes only consumers ". It is fair to say that he was crucified
by the main speaker with the support of the audience. Read about anti-Americanism and about the French
and the world.
About happiness !
|The French are like (spoiled) babies : they are happy and they don't know it !
If you are American, imagine your life WITHOUT the three following worries : 1/ no worry about health bills, 2/ no worry about how much money you'll have when you retire and 3/ no worry about the college tuition of your children. Would you be happier ? Well : this is the situation in France where health care is affordable and the word "existing-conditions" does not exist : read more), where pensions do not depend on your savings and if your former employers still exist (read more) and where education is quasi-free at all levels (read more). How can the French have such low spirits (read more)?
HAS CHANGED IN FRANCE ...? Contrary to its image, the French
society changes. The difference with other societies is that
every change looks difficult and generates sometimes violent
reactions like strikes and demonstrations. But changes do happen
- more shops
are open on Sundays
- the French
state is less omni-present and the French economy is completely
open to the world economy with many big firms which are leaders in their field
- the private
life of politicians is no longer a taboo
- the Communist
party has almost disappeared
- willing or
not, the French must abide by European rules (less state, more
- in everyday
life : people shake hands much less, they drink fewer aperitifs and hardly
ever indulge in after-dinner drinks!
- they speak
more English (sometimes, Americans complain that the French answer
them in English...)
- more and more obese people
- more to come...
In 2012, a sample of French women were asked about the most important events of the past ten years : see the results.
Disinterested or just crazy ?
They do not want to make (what they
consider) "unearned money" (at least you can say they
are not selfish....) :
- Only in France! Can you imagine a real estate agent who refuses a mandate to sell a house because he thinks that it is a wonderful family home? Read an anecdote about it.
- from a letter to the daily newspaper
Liberation (Sept.30, 2004) : "Four years ago, I bought an
apartment in Paris, in the XXth ; I need now a bigger one but
the price has doubled. I have always voted for the left-wing
and I would like to sell it for the price I bought it but I cannot afford it because I need the money for a new one.
At this price, I'll have to sell it to a wealthy person: It is
very unfair that real estate values have doubled and not salaries
and I think the government should keep the price from going up".
- Another example : in Sept. 2005,
the unions of the SNCF (the French train operator) refused to sign
a contract proposed by the company, which offered to share the
profit between the company and the employees. Reason : a state-owned
company must not make any profit and it would be immoral to
share the profit (it is fair to say that many SNCF workers
were very mad at their unions....).
- Alain Peyrefitte tells
the following story : when he was the Minister of Scientific
Research, he organized a party in the honour of French physicist
Alfred Kastler who had just been awarded a Nobel prize for the
discovery of optical pumping which led to the laser. Someone
said : " Too bad he did not patent it : he would be rich
by now " and a young brilliant scientist retorted " It proves that he is honest ". Read a similar story
- For this reason, many scientists refused the very principle of a bonus for the best achievements (Oct. 2009) : read about it.
January 2007, a petition was set up and signed by more than 3,000
prominent artists, writers, curators, etc... to protest the new
policy of the major French museums (the Louvre, Pompidou, etc..)
to develop a cooperation with foreign museums (Atlanta) or countries
(Abu Dhabi) and raise money by renting them some of the thousands
of pieces they have. The argument : it is shocking to sell
or rent a work of art.
They don't want rich foreigners to subsidize their health system : see the story.
They are not impressed by winners ! They prefer the friendly small (shop, for instance) to the the cold big department store), the nice loser to the arrogant winner (in the 1960s the most popular bike champion Raymond Poulidor never won a race and the winner was always Jacques Anquetil : the former was - and still is- loved, the latter was hated : too boring). Read about Vercingetorix, one of the top French national heroes, who lost to Julius Caesar....
or just crazy ?
is not machism : if you are a woman, and a Frenchman
holds a door for you, helps you put on your coat or serves you
wine, DO NOT rebuke him ! He is trying to be nice, respectful
and courteous and you would offend him seriously if you slam
the door on his nose, say that you are a big girl and you can
put on your own coat or refuse the wine. Many American women
do that and it is considered extremely rude ! Read about the French and sex and about the French woman.
They like a mutually-dependent relationship : in France, everything depends on the
relationship you have (or have not) built (see in business
relations). For instance, when you share the bill in a restaurant,
Americans always go into detail, so everyone pays exactly for
what he/she had : nobody owes anything to anybody. The French
do not like this and consider it the sign of sheer miserliness
: if you divide by the number of guests, some will get more,
some less : there will be a link between them.
They see plots everywhere :
The French see a plot in everything and never believe what they
are told ; for example, the ridiculous theory that no plane crashed
on the Pentagon on 9-11 was successful in France and the book
about it sold more than 100,000 copies. They will always try to find the most complicated and ambiguous
explanation to a situation and, if possible, a plot. Conversely, Americans see
everything black or white and trust what they are told : for
example most people in America believed the "a sole killer
and a magic bullet " theory in Kennedy assassination or the
story of massive destruction weapons in Iraq. The French think
the Americans are very naive....
See a tongue-in-cheek example of the complexity of the relationship between people : when to say "vous" and when to say "tu".
|A frequently asked question is "What was the attitude of the French during the German Occupation 1940-1944. For a tentative answer, see the history page and the page on a novel which takes place during these years.
Are they crazy ?
The French, who pride themselves
on being " logical ", are profoundly irrealistic and
passionate. " We express ourselves logically in order
to explain the illogical things that we do ". Among
many examples, they value :
Being different : they
do not feel uncomfortable being alone against everybody else
(they would not think " maybe the others are right ")
and do not value consensus
Being synthetic (as opposed
to analytic) : they do not like "weighing pros and cons"
: it is mediocre. They prefer broad ideas and the big picture.
differently their business memos.
Being " grands seigneurs " : in many situations (when prestige or image are at stake),
money is not an issue and they do not like to share
bills the way Americans do.
Being negative : criticizing
is valued and praising is not : it could lead the praised one
to stop making efforts (typically, when a kid gets an B+, the
reaction is "Why not an A?"). Read more about the national pessimistic mood.
Being happy-pessimists : they pretend they are collectively unhappy but individually happy. Are you following me ? read about "joie de vivre" in France.
- And also :
- no taxpayers' rebellion, in
spite of taxes being so high in France : the Yellow Vests revolt in 2018-2019 is the first one I've seen
- during public transport strikes,
people who have to walk to their work, support the strikers
- More to come
IN OTHER WORDS.....
The French have a very different system of values, and in spite
of their national motto "Liberty Equality Fraternity",
the words do not mean the same things. Read more about the French
understanding of "Liberté", "Egalité" and "Fraternité".
A short bibliography
HILL, Sharks and Custard - The Things That Make European Laugh,
- Any Asterix
& Obelix comic strip book will give you an excellent
idea of how the French see themselves...
- Charles GRUNER, Understanding
Laughter ; the Workings of Wit and Humor, Chicago , Nelson-Hall
- Theodore ZELDIN, The French,
The Harville Press, London, 1983
- Many authors have tried to explain why the concept of "change" is so difficult to implement in France. Among them, the best books are probably
Michel Crozier (La Société bloquée) and Alain Peyrefitte (Le Mal Français).
- More to come
YOU KNOW THAT.... The major French symbols are :
- The Marseillaise, the national anthem, was composed
in Strasbourg by a young officer, Rouget de Lisle, as a "
Chant de l'Armée du Rhin " ; sung for the first time
in 1792 in Paris by the voluntary troops from Marseille, it became
popular under this name ; the music is quite brilliant but the lyrics are very violent : if
you read a translation, you'd be horrified !
- The Blue-White-Red flag was also chosen (by La Fayette)
at the beginning of the French Revolution as a merger between
the color of the royalty (white) and the colors of the city of
Paris (blue and red), the symbol being that Paris, the revolutionary
power, would control the regal power.
- The Rooster is a much older symbol, going back to the
Gallic tribes (see more about the rooster) -Marianne is a women who is the symbol of the Republic and her bust can be seen everywhere in official buildings (see more).
Just plain crazy ?
Being negative : the French are systematically negative. When offered an opportunity, their first answer is never "Why not?" but "It won't work". When asked to evaluate an achievement, they begin with the defects. All French high-school students coming back home with the (wonderful) grade of 18 (out of 20, a super A+) have experienced the question "Why didn't you get a 20?". Why this constant negative attitude ? A tentative answer is that the French believe that, basically, the other people are bad and the world is dangerous. Anybody positive is considered very naive, underestimating how bad things could become. Another reason is that the French think that it is a proof of intelligence to see the defects or the dangers that could have escaped other people, less smart. This is espressed, for instance, in the innumerable verbal understatements the French use : "pas mauvais" (not bad) means in fact "very good", "pas bête" (not stupid) means "very intelligent : see more of them. When you discuss a project with French people, particularly in a business relation, never forget that they want to look smart and competent, not naive and childish : to show this, they will try to identify all the risks and inconveniences of the project before they start to discuss it seriously.
They know how to make everybody
unhappy and demonstrate in the streets : In Summer 2004, the government decided
that, in order to fund a program to help elderly people, everybody
in France would work for free on Pentacost Monday, one of the
(numerous) holidays in May. It did it the French way : top-down,
no discussion with business and labor forces. The Church expressed
no opposition. In May 2005, major unions call for a strike, the
SNCF (the state-owned rail company, world champion for the quality
of high-speed trains and the number of days of strikes),
decided that, instead, its employees would work an additional
1 minute and 52 seconds a day for free (! ! !), half of the parents'
associations urged parents to not send their kids to school,
the other half threatened to sue the teachers if they did not
teach this day, while the authorities of the city of Nimes proclaimed
that without the Pentacost Monday Feria, the noble art of bull-fighting
would never be the same. A total mess. At the end of the day
: a few more strikes, no additional money for the elderly, everyone
unhappy and the government ridiculed. That is what the French
call : defending their "avantages
|Dear American visitors : if you think that the French are difficult to understand, have a thought for the Japanese visitors ! They find it so difficult that some of them develop the Paris Syndrom hand have to be treated by a Japanese doctor in Paris ! Read about it on this site.
YOU KNOW THAT...? What is the nationality of the Smurfs ? American of course, you might think. No : wrong answer. Well, the answer is : Belgian. The smurfs were invented in 1958 by cartoonist Peyo (Piuerre Culliford) in the magazine Spirou, both illustrative of the very strong Belgian-French connection in cartoons. You should have guessed the right answer : the Smurfs (Schtroumfs in French) are disorganized, quarrelsome, not serious and enjoying lif and fights. Doesn't that remind you of the French ? More about French cartoons.
More examples ?
You had a bad experience in France ? (it happens : see irksome France). Maybe it's because you did not understand WHY the
French reacted this way : read more
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French and American attitudes are often very different. In Joie de Vivre, Harriet explains the French attitude toward blowing one’s top.
Don’t lose your nerve if you meet an argumentative Frenchman or a Parisian salesperson who curls hi slip. For the Gauls, a day without a clash is a sad and boring day indeed. Controversy is the French national sport . . . I’d wager that if you took contention and discord out of French life, you’d remove a huge slice of their joie de vivre. Disagreeing is not just a Gallic game, it’s part of their lifeblood.
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